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Monday, May 13, 2013

Realta Nua PC ver. Patch (Work In Progress)



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--This is for the PC version of Realta Nua ONLY--
--SEE README FOR INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS--

These patches are not compatible with save data made prior to Fate Patch 8/UBW Patch 1. If you're coming from a earlier version you'll need to delete your old save data (.bmp snapshots and all .ksd and .ksd.bak files). If you want a full save for the Fate route, you can find it here.

Fate Route
Fate WIP Patch 9 - All Days Inserted
  • Download from Solidfiles
Fate H Patch 1c (Inserts H-scenes from original PC version, requires above patch)
  • Download from Solidfiles

UBW Route
UBW WIP Patch 2f - All Days Inserted
  • Download from Solidfiles


NOTE: This is not primarily a translation project and I cannot guarantee anything text-wise beyond what is already in mirror moon's patch.

The purpose of this patch is to insert the existing English translation into the PC version of Realta Nua. At the moment most of the changes in the dialogue and narration are not reflected. This includes the All Ages changes so scenes that replace the H-scenes from the original PC version are left untranslated and references to the H-scenes from the original translation have been carried over. 

The H Patch inserts the H-scenes from the original PC version. Essentially it would be like a MUCH better version of the current RN Conversion patch. With this patch everything is fully translated so there's really no reason to use the original PC version for the Fate route. 

I plan on uploading a patch with my current progress every week. Firstly as a measure of progress, secondly since this is going to be a lot of scripts I'm worried about QC so it would be great if anyone wants to read through them and let me know about any errors. Patches that are currently being worked on will occasionally have lines marked with //del//. These are lines that were removed from Realta Nua and I've chosen to mark them instead of deleting them to avoid having them mistaken as errors.

If you find any problems, please report them here.

71 comments:

  1. Just to be sure, these are the PC versions of the three games that you will be working on, right?

    http://www.typemoon.com/products/fate_dl/

    In other words, the patches will be applied to these installed three games, am I correct?
    Or am I wrong with the versions of the games?

    I prefer to be sure before getting any of these.

    Thank you in advance for your answer ;)

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    1. Yes, that's correct.

      If you're planning on buying them I just want to emphasize this isn't a translation project, and that there may never be one.

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    2. Thank you very much for this precision.
      I had indeed misunderstood that point, even though I now see it mentionned in the other post.

      But my main motivation are the CGs, BGMs and intros, so it is still great for me. Can't wait to see it happen!

      Thank you for this amazing project!

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  2. Yeah! Thank you very much, Waku!

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  3. Not sure but don't these new RN games need to be cracked first? For the record I don't mind buying them, I just don't think it's possible outside of japan.

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    1. Yes. From the perspective of this patch, to make English translation based on translation by Mirror Moon, removing DRM is not needed. Unless there is some reasons to alter exe, but so far I don't see any need in that.

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    2. They have been cracked. I'm sure Waku Waku wouldn't appreciate my posting the links but it should be easy to find if you know where to look. *coughNyaacough*

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    3. Thank you. I was not aware they have been cracked already. Some time after their release there was a talk on /fate/ about the fact there was no crack at the time. It's still sad we need to do this. I'd like to support TM.

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  4. I would like to ask what would be the main differences between the Réalta Nua Conversion Patch (v. 4.2) and the new patch for the Réalta Nua PC version.

    If I'm not wrong, the resolution hasn't changed, right? As far as I know the main changes between versions are the voices, the music and some effects, but aren't those already present in the 4.2 patch?

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  5. Much of then don't are present.

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    1. Can you post some screenshots of the Realta Nua PC version? Just to try to compare them with the regular version.

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  6. Instead, i recoment to you see this channel in youtube, have all RN story and you can see what you want:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaWbERl8IVI

    There it's much difference.

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    1. Wow that battle got a good upgrade! Was the CG explosion of Excalibur against Ea in the original?
      Thanks for posting it.

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    2. No. The explosion CGs were not present in the PC version. Indeed, there are many additional CGs and effects in the RN.

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  7. First of all, thank you very much for your work, Waku Waku. I've waited too long for can play the real realta nua. One question: You can will translate too the options of the differents paths? For example, when in Fate, you can go to training or to help Sakura, that it's still in japanese. Thank you very much.

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    1. Yeah those will be translated, I'm just focusing on the main text first.

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  8. Ok, thank you very much!

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  9. "translation..."
    What is the difference?
    I assumed the Realta Nua version was exactly the same with VA, FX, and without any H?

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    1. Nope. There is added textual content in Realta Nua.

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    2. I've seen quite a few changes text wise, but so far they've all been pruning and rephasings. So far I haven't seen any actual "added" text. But maybe there's some later.

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  10. Just out of curiosity, would it be a particularly possible thing to copy not just mirror moon's translated scripts but also their translated date images over from the original PC patch and make that work? Or is it changed to the point where that will no longer work?

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    1. Most of them should work but some (most notable the config menu) will have to be redone.

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    2. Yeah, that's about what I expected. Thanks for answering.

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  11. Thanks for doing this, but can you post the estimation of how much work you have done in percentage (like "35% done" or "25% done")?

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    1. Sure, I guess. But it might not be especially accurate since there's isn't really a good measurement.

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  12. I would like to ask a question.
    First off, I have been following XerBlade as well as Waku Waku and appreciate your amazing efforts into this novel.

    My question is: I have noted that the Realta Nua version to be seemingly different wth the CGs, especially the BGM. Waku Waku, With all the conversion updates and whatsoever, will the Realta Nua / PC Version have any significant differences? I would like to experience the novel at its best. Does that mean I have to download the Realta Nua version instead?

    And if yes, I would honestly appreciate it if anyone could share a link with that. I've seen that XerBlade has uploaded some new Realta Nua videos. I love the changes.

    Thanks for reading.

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    1. "With all the conversion updates and whatsoever, will the Realta Nua / PC Version have any significant differences?"
      Most of the scenes should end up identical. However pretty much every scene with major visual changes will be worse in the original PC version patch.

      If you're going to be pirating regardless, there's really no reason to go with the original PC version.

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    2. Thanks for your reply Waku. And yes, I have the PC Version downloaded. I'm a little impatient to buy the FSN for PS Vita, which is why I came with this question. The only difficult thing is to find the Realta Nua PC version to download.

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  13. Sorry for asking if this has already been asked, but will this patch remove the H scenes? Or will this just add to what's already there?

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    1. This is for Realta Nua, which doesn't have H-scenes.

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  14. So how do you install this? I don't have faterealtanua_savedata folder. I guess I should put these in main folder then but it doesn't say anything about renaming stuff. It's really confusing because these kinds of updates rarely work without overwriting or renameing something. Readme would be great

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    1. I really think everybody has one. You just have to find where is it (mis)placed. My first install (desktop) has it on the Programs folder for some weird reasons, must have changed the savedata directory upon installing. My 2nd install in the laptop, I have it on default (Documents folder).

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    2. Can't find it. Weird. I install PC version and then I use mirrormoon's translate installer with realta nua patch. Game works, it's in english and there are voices. patch.xp3 files are inside main folder (Fate) and there's the "savedata" folder as well but nowhere have I found "faterealtanua_savedata". Could you tell me what's inside "faterealtanua_savedata" folder? What kind of files and such, please.

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    3. Oh and also how to clarify if it's actually working.
      Help, anyone?

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    4. You use the mirrormoon's patch? Maybe what you have is the original PC version - the one released in 2004.

      FSN has 2 versions: original version and Realta Nua

      To play the original version in english, you need the mirrormoon patch. Original version has H-scenes and has no Last Episode (aka to some, Saber's Epilogue). Realta Nua patch for this original version enhances one's experience in playing FSN by inserting realta nua stuffs (new CGs, Last Episode, etc.).


      The version for THIS patch (the patch in this thread) is the one released in 2011 (i think). This version, called Realta Nua was released first in PS2 (2006) and PS Vita and finally, ported to PC as I said in 2011. Realta Nua version is an all-age version, has no H-scene but with added/enhanced CGs and BGMs.

      Waku waku worked/still working on the Realta Nua patch for the original version. But, in THIS new project of him, he is making the English patch for the Realta Nua version ported to PC.

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    5. Fellow Anon, following my reply above, you can find the following in the faterealtanua_savedata:
      - data999.ksd
      - datasc.ksd
      - datasc.ksd.bak
      - datasu.ksd
      - datasu.ksd.bak
      - .bmp files of your saves
      *official patches should also be placed in the said folder.

      You must have been mixed up ORIGINAL VERSION with Realta Nua patch and REALTA NUA VERSION in PC with this English patch.

      The word 'version' that I used in this reply differentiates ORIGINAL Ver with H-scenes (18+) versus REALTA NUA Ver (all-ages).
      Whereas Waku waku, in his post at the top of this page, used the word 'version' to differentiate REALTA NUA releases (as in Realta Nua for PlayStation 2 versus Realta Nua for PlayStation Vita versus Realta Nua for PC). Ok?

      I don't know if this is permissible, but if you want the REALTA NUA Ver in PC, you can just torrent it.

      The torrent usually has the cracks for the 3 routes (Fate, UBW, HF) and is in Japanese. It is with Waku waku's kindness that we can now play Fate route of Realta Nua for PC in English.

      *I forgot to mention, the Realta Nua Version for PC has the FSN divided into three, that is the 3 routes (Fate, UBW and HF).

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    6. Thank you! That explained pretty much everything. I have that original version and patched that. I thought that original means no Realta Nua patch installed but it seems that it still counts as original if Realta Nua stuff comes later from a patch. Ok I'll download the Original Conversion patch instead of this.
      Thanks again.

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  15. The links appear to be broken.
    Could you please re-upload the files?

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  16. Could Any One Plz Re-upload the files ?

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    1. Uploaded. But can you take a screenshot of the Solidfiles links? I've checked them from multiple devices and they're both working for me.

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  17. No matter what I do, I can't get anything to work.
    I have the PC Realta Nua files and have extracted them to my Documents folder.
    I put the data.xp3 file and .exe file into the extracted Fate Folder.
    I tried running the other exe and then I receive this message"???? \\psf\Home\Documents\Fate/stay night[Realta Nua] -Fate-\FateSaber.exe ?????? ."
    When i try running the exe that came with the game, Securom pops up.
    Can anyone please help me?

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    1. You have to delete the signs as '/' and '[ ]' present in the folder's name (not sure if the .exe file requires this too, but you should do it just in any case) or rename the game's folder as you want. I had the same problem and doing this I made it work. Hope I'd helped you.

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  18. I read somewhere online that there was a fate/good end that you had to see all 5 endings, and all 40 tiger dojos and then replay fate to see. And that this ending wasn't in the original PC version.

    Will the PC conversion patch allow me to see this ending? If so is it translated? (and will my global save data carry over so I can just replay fate to see the ending?)

    If the PC conversion patch won't let me see the fate/good end, what do I need to do to see it?

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    1. It is included and translated in the conversion patch. It doesn't require the Tiger Dojos, only the 5 endings. Your save data will work fine. You don't need to replay Fate, if you have all 5 endings the button for it will be on the title screen.

      And just so nobody reading this gets confused, all of this is referring to the conversion patch and not this RN PC Ver. patch.

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    2. Thnx for fast reply, actually thought I was posting this on the PC conversion patch's post...oops, sry about that.

      Been like 4 years since I played Fate/stay night, and I can still quote many of the scenes verbatim, lol. Can't wait to see(read) fate/good end.

      Now if only I could find a 100% translation for Fate/Hollow Alexandria so I can finally play that one.....

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  19. does the h patch replace the All Ages scenes or actually make them play one after the other?

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  20. I'm sorry if this was already mentioned, but what's the difference between these PC realta nua patches and the old one (version 4.2). I realize this current project is meant to work with those separate PC realta nua PC releases of Fate, UBW, and HF. Is it just different sound effects and stuff? I'm not sure what the differences are.

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  21. Whenever I try to access Day 3, the game just crashes, leaving me unable to access the rest of the game.

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    1. Sorry, forgot to mention which route. There's no problems with Fate, it's UBW that crashes on Day 3 if I have the English patches for it added.

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  22. can someone please take a screenshot of where to put the patches and their program files? I've been trying to get this to work and whenever I try to load something, it fails

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  23. do i need to download all patch or just pick one?

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  24. This isn't of the Fate VN is it? Because if it is then I already have that and this'll be a bit upsetting... I just wanted to know before I downloaded and installed it since I don't have much room left on my laptop for stuff so reinstalling a VN that I already have would be a little irritating. Thanks in advance for your answer ^-^

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    1. Do your research

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    2. I know Realta Nua is one of the Fate series arcs, but I don't know where in hell to look for answers on this site other than to ask. If you know where else I can find the answer to my question then please do tell.

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  26. I copied the patch files to the faterealtanua_savedata file after deleting everything in it, but whenever I try to start one of the cracked .exes the data .ksd files somehow reappear and the VN text remains Japanese instead of English. Is there some way to stop the data files from reappearing?

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    1. The files are supposed to reappear when you start the game. If it's still in Japanese you might have copied them to the folder wrong. Make sure that the .xp3 files are in faterealtanua_savedata itself and not a subfolder inside it. Also this patch is out of date, you should be using Jack's newest patch that you can find here: http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/1411-Fate-stay-night-Realta-Nua-PC-version!?p=1389417&viewfull=1#post1389417

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    2. Ah, it works now! Thanks a lot for your help!

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    5. I'm trying to get the English translation patch to the Fate route to work. I've got Jack's files into the "savedata" folder the game uses, but it's not working. I've tried to rename the "savedata" file to "faterealtanua_savedata" but the game will just create another "savedata" file once booted up. I'm using the cracked Fate/stay night [Realta Nua] for Windows from Nyaa

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    6. They need to be in the faterealtanua_savedata folder in your My Documents folder, not the savedata folder in the folder with the exe file.

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  27. There are lots of missed lines in UBW, 11th day:"Shinro - Special?", in the restaurant scene.
    http://i42.tinypic.com/1h9kt1.jpg

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  28. i just saw this recently, and my question is that, do u need the actually game for these files? or is this the actually game itself - translated?

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  29. I need help playing the PS2 OP of Fate Realta Nua PC version. After clearing the Prologue, the game crashes before the movie can play. Please help me. I would be very grateful

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    1. If you're using this patch please switch over to using one of the patches at http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/4745 instead. If you're already using one of the please report the bug in that thread.

      If you're using my patch for the original game with the PS2 OP patch I can't really help as I didn't make that patch.

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    2. I'm currently using the new Realta Nua Patch From BestLair.

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  30. hey how download the game? i can't find the link

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  31. where can i download this game??please give me a torrent type download link thanks ..

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